Mr. Senator. It could be maybe three-quarters of an hour or an hour. I am not sure.

Mr. Hubert. What is your first distinct recollection of him that morning?

Mr. Senator. Well, the moment he got up he went to the bathroom, which is normal for him.

Mr. Hubert. Did you speak to him then?

Mr. Senator. Yes; I did. Of course, we turned on the TV. He had the TV going. He turned it on to see what the latest news was. Then he went to the bathroom. Of course, then he washed, and he went in and made his own breakfast. I only had coffee. He made himself a couple of scrambled eggs and coffee for himself, and he still had this look which didn’t look good.

Mr. Hubert. Again I want to ask you, can you give us a comparison between the look that he had that morning, which you just described, as opposed to what it was on other occasions in the sense of whether it was growing worse or not?

Mr. Senator. He looked a little worse this day here. But if you ask me how to break it down, how he looks worse, how can I express it? The look in his eyes?

Mr. Hubert. Well, is that one of the things?

Mr. Senator. Yes; that is the way it seems.

Mr. Hubert. The way he talked or what he said?