Mr. Hubert. All right, what happened?

Mr. Senator. Not to my knowledge. The first time she said she heard that somebody shot Oswald.

Mr. Hubert. Was she speaking to you?

Mr. Senator. No, no, it was loud; but it happened to be she was near me.

Mr. Hubert. There were other people in the place?

Mr. Senator. Not a lot. There were others you know, the usual morning Sunday business in the restaurant is sort of minute. So what I did when I heard that, I called up the lawyer. I was going to give him the news. I figured he would probably be sitting home, you know, Jim Martin, who happens to be a friend of mine. But when I called him. I spoke to his daughter and she told me her dad and mother were in church. Dad would be home in half an hour. I said all right, maybe I’ll call him back.

A short while later, the same girl, the same waitress hollered out that the man—she wasn’t pronouncing the name right, the Carousel Club, but I sort of got the drift of the name and she hollered Jack Ruby killed Oswald. This is what she come up with later.

Mr. Hubert. How much later?

Mr. Senator. I would probably say about 5 minutes.

Mr. Hubert. But it was after you had called Martin?