Mr. Senator. No. The first call, I was just going to tell him that I heard that Oswald was shot, which the girl told me. But on the second time—I didn’t——

Mr. Hubert. You realized your position at that time as being his roommate and that gave you concern because you thought that the police might be picking you up?

Mr. Senator. Sure.

Mr. Hubert. And you thought you had better have the advice of a lawyer?

Mr. Senator. To ask him what to do. Should I go down there or what?

Mr. Hubert. What did you do in fact?

Mr. Senator. Well, we went down there. We went down there and, of course, we had a tough time getting in. When we got down the place was just jammed.

Mr. Hubert. How long were you at Martin’s house, speaking to him?

Mr. Senator. I would say maybe 5 minutes, maybe 10 minutes something like that.

Mr. Hubert. And did you in effect ask him what you should do?