Mr. Griffin. Do you not know the names of any of the people who work in there?
Mr. Senator. This girl here, I mean I know them all, but I don’t know them by name.
Mr. Griffin. Do you know any of them by name?
Mr. Senator. No; I don’t know any of them by name.
Mr. Griffin. Do you know the names of the owners?
Mr. Senator. I know the owner. I know his first name. I don’t know his last name.
Mr. Griffin. What is that?
Mr. Senator. His first name is Jim. There is a father and son. Jim is the father and Charles is the son.
Mr. Griffin. How old would you say they are?
Mr. Senator. I would probably say Charles must be—of course, they weren’t there that day. Charles I would probably say is in—could be in I guess his late thirties, I’m not sure, and the father I would probably say is maybe in his late sixties or early seventies.