Mr. Griffin. But you would say that you saw Barclay and Howard and Martin more often than you saw the other people?
Mr. Senator. Martin more so than the others. But the others, I’d see them every now and then. Like the trial I’d seen them down at the courthouse and things of that nature.
Mr. Griffin. Now what about the Lauves?
Mr. Senator. The Lauves, those are people who I stayed with, who kept me up when I didn’t have a place to stay.
Mr. Griffin. But did you see them more often than you saw Howard and Barclay?
Mr. Senator. I stayed there every day. I was living there.
Mr. Griffin. I mean prior to the shooting.
Mr. Senator. Prior to that on rare occasions, on rare occasions. One time I used to see them quite often. Of course, that is when I was traveling.
Mr. Griffin. But at the time that Jack Ruby shot Lee Oswald, of all the people you have mentioned, Jim Martin was the person you felt the closest to?
Mr. Senator. He was a close friend of mine. I used to see him almost every day, especially more so during the trial.