Mr. Rubenstein. Everybody knows Lenny Patrick. When you go to school you know everybody in a school, grade school or even high school, and if you lived on the west side you know Lenny Patrick because Lenny Patrick, you walk into a delicatessen or into a poolroom, “Hi, Lenny,” “Hi, Jack,” that is how you know him.
Mr. Griffin. What does Lenny Patrick do?
Mr. Rubenstein. I don’t know what he does.
Mr. Griffin. Does he make an honest living?
Mr. Rubenstein. I think gambling is his biggest racket. I think so.
Mr. Griffin. Do you know a fellow in New York by the name of Frank Carbonaro?
Mr. Rubenstein. Carbonaro. He is the guy who used to ship my merchandise for me when I was in business for myself. 811 East 242d Street, Bronx 70, N.Y.
Mr. Griffin. What was his connection with the shipping?
Mr. Rubenstein. He bought my merchandise for me and he shipped it to me for my customers. You see New York is the ribbon market of the world. You can’t get the stuff anywhere else than in New York, certain items, and Frankie took care of those things for me. I paid him a commission on every order. That is how it worked out.
Mr. Griffin. How about the Morris Paper Mill Co., did you have some dealings with them?