Mrs. Grant. It seems to me I heard that too, but that would be nothing to him. I know it would sound crazy. My brother has called me when I am not sick five times a day. I mean, there are times, it is not an everyday occurrence, but there has been times, but it seems to me he said he had called her.

Mr. Griffin. How long did he remain?

Mrs. Grant. I am going to be honest about this. Alice is a very cold person. A very fine person, but I could never get to talk to her as even to this day, and I have known her for years.

I never sort of pushed conversation like, “How is she, what is she doing.” Yet I knew he had a great liking for her.

Mr. Griffin. You indicated earlier that he had been engaged to her. Was that actually a formal engagement?

Mrs. Grant. Oh, yes. He gave her a ring.

Mr. Griffin. Now, after he talked with Cecil Hamblen, did he make any other phone calls, that you remember?

Mrs. Grant. Then it seems he called Dr. Jacobson, Coleman Jacobson, who attended the same synagogue.

Mr. Griffin. Let me see if I can help you with this. Do you recall Jack saying in the telephone call to the doctor—well, do you recall after Jack made the telephone call to Dr. Jacobson that Jack actually called the synagogue?

Mrs. Grant. He either did one or the other, but he did call both. You understand the whole deal, I got to tell you this.