Mr. Rubenstein. At 9 o’clock Friday night we got a call from Jack. He felt very, very bad about.

Mr. Griffin. How long did he talk to you?

Mr. Rubenstein. Oh, quite a while.

Mr. Griffin. How long would you say?

Mr. Rubenstein. I would say 10 or 15 minutes. He was disgusted with the whole situation down there. He said, “You know this is a good time for me to sell out and come back up north.”

Mr. Griffin. Did he talk to you?

Mr. Rubenstein. To me.

Mr. Griffin. What did you say?

Mr. Rubenstein. I didn’t know what to tell him. What can I tell him. I am a thousand miles away from him. I don’t know what the answer could be, I hadn’t seen him in quite a while. I don’t know what his position is down there. I couldn’t see what his selling out would help with losing our wonderful President. It was too close to the assassination to even think. What could you tell a person?

Mr. Griffin. Why did he want to sell out?