Mr. Ball. Now, you believe——

Mr. Rheinstein. I would say both times when we saw him he was on the third floor.

Mr. Ball. And he passed the cameras?

Mr. Rheinstein. Right.

Mr. Ball. And that was during the daytime or evening?

Mr. Rheinstein. That would all be during the daytime on Saturday.

Mr. Ball. And would that be in the morning or the afternoon that you saw him?

Mr. Rheinstein. It would be in the morning and in the afternoon. The most pointed appearance, or the most memorable appearance of his followed an incident that took place thusly—do you want me to go ahead?

Mr. Ball. Yes; go ahead.

Mr. Rheinstein. An unidentified WBAP engineer alleged that the man we had seen around the truck, subsequently identified as Ruby, had taken one of the fried chicken dinners which had been brought into the truck for the WBAP crew. This allegation was made when he was seen on the third floor going into an office in which District Attorney Henry Wade was purportedly working. The reason this was significant was that reporters had not been permitted inside that office, and this man whom the cameraman pointed out as the same one who had earlier been around the truck had gained access where newsmen had been unable to gain access.