Mr. Ball. You don’t remember their names. Now, I will turn to another subject, Mr. Rheinstein. Did you go in the police building on Saturday and on Sunday?

Mr. Rheinstein. Yes.

Mr. Ball. You weren’t there on Sunday, were you?

Mr. Rheinstein. Yes.

Mr. Ball. You were at the police building on Sunday?

Mr. Rheinstein. Oh, yes.

Mr. Ball. Where were you?

Mr. Rheinstein. Well, I had two mobile units on Sunday morning because they were moving him from the city to the county. I started at the city, made sure the cameras were all in place and——

Mr. Ball. That’s in the basement of the city hall?

Mr. Rheinstein. Yes. One was in the basement, two were actually on the third floor, and, as a matter of fact, what we were trying to do was move one of the cameras from the third floor down to the basement, so I left instructions to do that and went down to the county jail where we had another mobile unit, for the first time, and we had a communications setup where I would, since I knew everything, I would call the shots, so to speak, from the county. Right before they were going to move him I came back for a last minute check at the city jail, and actually at the time of the shooting I was at the county jail. About 30 minutes later, 40, 40 minutes probably, after the shooting, and after we went off the air, I came back, we dispatched the county jail unit to the hospital and I came back and operated once again out of the city jail, so I was there a number of times.