Mr. Griffin. Who is he with?
Mr. Pappas. He left United Press—he is with the Herald Tribune, I believe.
Mr. Griffin. But he was with United Press at that time?
Mr. Pappas. I believe he was with the Herald Tribune at the time.
Mr. Griffin. I see.
You used the word Saro, and it sounds a little like Carroll. I notice in one of the interviews the FBI had with you they reported that one of the people you were with was a man by the name of Carroll, Mickey Carroll of the New York Herald Tribune. Is this the same person?
Mr. Pappas. No; Carroll was later on. We worked together.
Mr. Griffin. I see.
Now, when you arrived at the city hall, where did you first go?
Mr. Pappas. We went to the third floor.