Mr. Griffin. And how much later is it you estimate that Oswald was finally moved out of the homicide office?
Mr. Pappas. Let’s see. Later than what?
Mr. Griffin. Well, than this particular episode you have just been describing, talking with Curry, and having seen the armored car.
Mr. Pappas. Well, Curry left. A lot of other reporters left. It was about 11 o’clock.
Mr. Griffin. I am probably not making myself clear. How much time elapsed between the time that you finished talking with Curry, after having seen the armored car, and the time that Oswald was actually moved?
Mr. Pappas. Oh, I would say 20 minutes, 25 minutes. To the best of my recollection.
Mr. Griffin. Were you on the third floor when Oswald was taken out of the homicide office?
Mr. Pappas. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. And what did you do when he was brought out of the office?
Mr. Pappas. Well, I saw Captain Fritz coming out first, and Oswald was behind him. I walked up to Fritz and I asked him a question.