Mr. Griffin. Is there anything that places the call before 10 o’clock?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. What?

Mr. Rubenstein. Too late. I mean we usually don’t get many calls after 9 o’clock at home, usually.

Mr. Griffin. Well, but——

Mr. Rubenstein. Under normal procedures we don’t.

Mr. Griffin. Was there anything about this particular call that makes you think it was before 10 o’clock?

Mr. Rubenstein. I think so. I don’t know why. I can’t give you a real honest answer, I don’t remember.

Mr. Griffin. Do you have a clear recollection that not only you talked with Jack but that your sisters Marion and Ann talked on that call?

Mr. Rubenstein. I am almost positive.