Mr. Griffin. Did you see him again?
Mr. McCullough. No; I did not see him at the press conference at which Oswald appeared. However, the fact that he was there and wearing the same clothing was told me later by a police judge who was present at that press conference.
Mr. Griffin. Justice of the Peace David Johnston?
Mr. McCullough. Yes. I went to his office the following day in another part of—actually in a suburb of Dallas, to follow up the story. And—I am sorry, it was not the following day. It must have been Monday, when it was then clear that the man who shot Oswald was Ruby. And I mentioned to Johnston that I had bumped into this man. And the police judge said, that he, too, had seen him at the press conference, and that Ruby had approached him and handed him a card, a gray card, advertising the club that he operated.
Mr. Griffin. Do you have a clear recollection that Johnston said that Ruby was wearing an overcoat?
Mr. McCullough. This I don’t—I have no clear recollection, but I did mention the clothing, the hat, and Johnston said that this was the same—the hat I did mention.
Mr. Griffin. Yes.
Mr. McCullough. But I don’t remember whether or not I mentioned the topcoat.
Mr. Griffin. Were you able to see what sort of clothes the man you believe was Ruby had on under the topcoat?
Mr. McCullough. No; I could not see that. However, after the jostling, after I had jostled him, we did stand together, I would guess, for 5 or 10 minutes. There was no further exchange, conversation between us.