Mr. Griffin. Let me ask you to write in there what is the ramp that the automobiles come in from the streets.

Mr. McCullough. These would be—as a matter of fact, this is the in lane, and this is the out lane.

Mr. Griffin. You have drawn an arrow indicating the in lane which is Main Street, if you want to write that in.

Mr. McCullough. I didn’t know the names of the streets there.

Mr. Griffin. And, of course, the out, or up ramp is Commerce Street.

Mr. McCullough. I was there for a sufficiently long time, for instance, that there were very few reporters there when I arrived. The police officers on duty asked me several times for credentials, which I showed. I was there while they went into parked police cars and removed from the parked police cars weapons which they took somewhere into the jail office. I was there when they backed in an armored car from the Commerce Street exit. They could not get it very far back because of overhead ducts, the heating ducts serving the building. So they had to leave the armored car virtually at the exit. It was parked then on an incline.

Mr. Griffin. Where did you station yourself?

Mr. McCullough. The railing that I mentioned leads along this ramp, and actually it is two metal bars. And I stood on the upper metal bar, leaning against this pillar. In other words, my position would have been here, where I am putting this “X.”

Mr. Griffin. And let me state for the record that you have marked a position on the railing which is along what I will call the entrance to the garage. You might write “garage” there. And it is not the railing that is actually on the Commerce Street ramp, or Main Street ramp.

Mr. McCullough. Actually—that is right. I was immediately against the pillar. In other words, I was using the pillar for support.