Mr. Griffin. Mr. Pollak, do you have any questions that you would like to ask?
Mr. Pollak. I would just ask whether the witness saw anybody other than the man he thought was Ruby who did not appear to be authorized as a newsman in the third floor corridor on Friday or Saturday?
Mr. McCullough. No. Well, the other robbery units and auto theft were still trying to function Friday night, and moved their people into this crowd along the corridor. So there were what would be civilians and, I suppose, people having business with the police department moving in and out of there constantly.
Mr. Pollak. Did these people you just referred to—were they normally escorted by a police officer?
Mr. McCullough. Yes; they were always with an officer, and went into one of the other offices. As I say, I remember specifically there were some sailors in uniform, and a man reporting a stolen automobile—these things you remember because when anybody came along the corridor, none of us had any idea who it might be coming, and everyone watched to see who it was. Incidentally, while I saw the shooting of Oswald, I was not at that time able to identify the man who did the shooting as the same man I had seen in the corridor, because as he moved out of the crowd of people along the ramp toward Oswald, all that I could see was a side view and the back of the head. It was a different type of hat, too.
Mr. Griffin. The hat was different?
Mr. McCullough. Yes; it was a gray felt hat, or a dark gray felt hat, on Sunday—not the sporty type porkpie that I had seen Friday night. It wasn’t actually until I saw a full face photograph of the man on television and in the newspapers that I was sure who he was.
Mr. Griffin. Have you ever seen Jack Ruby in person?
Mr. McCullough. No.
Mr. Griffin. You used the term that you were sure who it was. Is there any hesitancy or doubt in your mind?