Mr. Griffin. Did you visit the Carousel Club from time to time?

Mr. Kleinman. Well, I had visited there a number of times maybe around the latter part of the month to bring him some reports to sign, or get the social security withheld, or get his tax reports out.

Mr. Griffin. Did Jack bring any records to you on a monthly basis?

Mr. Kleinman. He was supposed to. He brought quite a few records. There was a lot of records missing that he brought up later. We were trying to accumulate all the records to work up his report.

Mr. Griffin. Were you able to tell from an examination of the records that he did bring you whether or not the Carousel Club was a profitable operation?

Mr. Kleinman. Well, from the looks of it, it didn’t look like it was too profitable, as far as I could tell. Of course, I never did get the final, get to make a final.

Mr. Griffin. Did you have any indication that he was actually losing money?

Mr. Kleinman. Well, at times he said it was losing money.

Mr. Griffin. Did the records substantiate that?

Mr. Kleinman. Well, that I couldn’t say because I didn’t have all the records, all of his paid receipts. And over a period of 6 or 8 months, why he would find additional receipts and bring to me.