Mr. Griffin. Do you remember when you began traveling in Michigan?
Mr. Rubenstein. No; but I could have told you that if I had my records here.
Mr. Griffin. I wanted to get a little background on yourself before we go into some general questions. You say you came to this country when you were about 2½?
Mr. Rubenstein. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Did you come to Chicago?
Mr. Rubenstein. I don’t know. I don’t think we did. I think, of course, I think we stopped off in New York, and then I think we came to Chicago. My father was here first.
Mr. Griffin. How long was your father here?
Mr. Rubenstein. He—about a year.
Mr. Griffin. And you say you are not sure where you came to. Did you have a permanent home any place before you moved to Chicago?
Mr. Rubenstein. No.