Mrs. Helmick. I worked until about a week after Thanksgiving.
Mr. Griffin. Did you hear any conversation around the Bull Pen which would indicate that anybody had any advance information that Jack might do what he did?
Mrs. Helmick. Now the next day after we had heard it on the radio, he was popping off about this telephone call that he had that night, and he told us that he talked to Jack and that they had talked about a gun, and that he had it in a dresser drawer or something like that, and that he didn’t tell what he was going to do with it.
I don’t even know that he told Ralph what he was going to do with it.
I don’t even know that he told Ralph what he was going to do with it. [Repeating.]
Mr. Griffin. When you refer to “he had it in the drawer,” you mean Jack Ruby?
Mrs. Helmick. Yes. But he was telling us again what I had overheard over the telephone about the gun and about out with one or the other.
And he said that he had told Jack that he was either crazy, or something like that, that he didn’t know what he was doing.
Mr. Griffin. Who was present during this conversation on Sunday?
Mrs. Helmick. Everybody that worked for him was gathered around there on the other side of this object that I have drawn where the cashier stands. We were all standing around in a huddle, and John was standing on one side of the counter, and we were all on the other.