Mr. Griffin. Do you know what significance that telephone conversation has?

Mrs. Helmick. I don’t know that it has any bearing on the case at all.

Mr. Griffin. Why did you remember it then?

Mrs. Helmick. Because of the gun, and after Oswald had been shot the next day, I knew that it was bound to have something to do with it.

Mr. Griffin. What do you think it has to do with it?

Mrs. Helmick. I don’t know. My own opinion has nothing to do with this, I don’t think.

Mr. Griffin. You think the conversation about the gun didn’t have anything to do with the shooting of Oswald? Is that what you are saying?

Mrs. Helmick. It was the same gun that they were talking about.

Mr. Griffin. How do you know that?

Mrs. Helmick. Because Ralph told us the next day that it was.