Mr. Benton. Dallas; it’s owned by the Times Herald.

Mr. Hubert. Did you see another mobile unit belonging to another TV station along in there?

Mr. Benton. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Hubert. How far away?

Mr. Benton. As I recall, it was adjacent to ours.

Mr. Hubert. Was there a crowd on Commerce Street at that time?

Mr. Benton. Not a large crowd; no, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Do you recall seeing a crowd on the opposite side of Commerce Street?

Mr. Benton. Yes; a small crowd. Less than 100 people.

Mr. Hubert. They were controlled by police; were they?