Mr. Hubert. But now you wish to correct that and say it was later?
Mr. Bellocchio. We have established the time as being later than that, to the extent that I spoke to another friend of ours that was down there and he tells us it was closer to, I believe, 4 or 4:30 and he knows this is true because he had an appointment, I believe, at 2 o’clock and he was still there at 2 o’clock, and he’s told us he stayed about 2 hours after that; therefore, he’s very sure that it was not at 2 o’clock.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, you fix the time at 4 o’clock because some friend of yours has told you that he saw you there?
Mr. Bellocchio. Yes; we spoke with him.
Mr. Hubert. You spoke with him and he knows it was 4 because he couldn’t himself have gotten there until 4 o’clock.
Mr. Bellocchio. That’s right.
Mr. Hubert. What is that friend’s name?
Mr. Bellocchio. I can’t think of his name, but he’s in the door business. It may come to me in a few seconds—I just can’t think of his name right now.
Mr. Hubert. How did you have occasion to talk to him about this time question?
Mr. Bellocchio. Well, naturally, afterward we all spoke about having seen Jack Ruby and we spoke about the FBI contacting us, and then we just spoke about it, tried to hash it out exactly what happened, when it happened.