Mr. Bellocchio. That’s right.

Mr. Hubert. And you say he would not let you have them?

Mr. Bellocchio. He would not let me have them.

Mr. Hubert. Did he state why?

Mr. Bellocchio. I believe he said he had some sort of a scoop and wanted to see that the right persons would get the photographs. I’m not at all sure, but I believe he said that.

Mr. Hubert. Was he worried about his own business or seem to be or indicate that he was?

Mr. Bellocchio. No; he didn’t mention his own business.

Mr. Hubert. How long was the conversation between you, Apple, and Ruby?

Mr. Bellocchio. Perhaps 3 minutes, 4 minutes.

Mr. Hubert. Now, how did the whole matter end? That is to say, you discussed the matter with Apple and you asked him again for the picture and he told you or indicated something about wanting a scoop or thinking he had a scoop, and what happened next? Did he leave you, you leave him, or what happened?