Mr. Duncan. Not very definitely. It’s very difficult for me to do.

Mr. Hubert. Except that you know they were before 1 o’clock?

Mr. Duncan. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. And that they were 10 minutes apart?

Mr. Duncan. I would say they were approximately 10 minutes apart.

Mr. Hubert. And it was on the second one that he told you that he could get the interview with Wade?

Mr. Duncan. Yes. He said that he was there and that Henry Wade was there and did I want to talk with the District Attorney Wade, and at this time I was very anxious to do that because we were understaffed. I was alone in the newsroom. I knew that something was going on, but in attempting to get facts, I had tried to get into city hall by calling every other place I knew over there and had been unable to reach Wade, so I was very anxious to do that.

Mr. Hubert. Did you suggest to Ruby on the first call that you would like an interview with Wade, or was it his idea?

Mr. Duncan. To the best of my recollection, the conversation with Wade was his idea. I may have said something about perhaps in cutting the telephone conversation short, but I was busy in trying to get into the city hall by telephone to get some information or something, but I did not ask him specifically to find Wade or anyone else for me, and I honestly do not know whether or not I mentioned it to him.

Mr. Hubert. But when he called you the second time, the purpose of that call was to tell you that he had Wade available?