Mr. Hallmark. He was—he told this person who he had established as being Ken, that he had been to the city hall and was following this thing, and he had information to the effect that the transfer was to take place that afternoon. I got the impression that he had some information and possibly wanted corroboration. In other words, he just was not 100 percent sure, but he had—he thought he knew that the thing was to take place then, but was not 100 percent sure. Then, he remarked that people started strewing flowers at the scene of the assassination, which is in the immediate locale of the county jail, so that possibly because of the congestion they would not transfer Oswald that afternoon. Oswald’s name—I don’t recall definitely that Oswald’s name was mentioned. He kept referring to him as “he”.

Mr. Hubert. I think you were aware that he was talking to a newspaper reporter, weren’t you, a Wes Wise?

Mr. Hallmark. He was talking to, if I may tell you something I found out since or I think I found out, he was talking to a diskjockey on one of the local radio stations.

Mr. Hubert. His original call had been then to a man by the name of Wes Wise—Wesley Wise?

Mr. Hallmark. He asked for Wes Wise.

Mr. Hubert. What radio station would that be?

Mr. Hallmark. I believe that would be Ken Dowe with KLIF. This I think I found out since the trial.

Mr. Hubert. In other words; he first asked for Wes Wise?

Mr. Hallmark. That’s correct.

Mr. Hubert. And your recollection is he soon discovered he was talking to Ken and so made a remark that indicated he was?