Mr. Hallmark. No; not with me.

Mr. Hubert. Now, on the 23d when you saw him, what was your impression of his reaction to the death of President Kennedy?

Mr. Hallmark. I described him to Mr. Carter as being a preoccupied and an intense person.

Mr. Hubert. You mean generally so?

Mr. Hallmark. Generally so. Ruby was—everything was either black or white with Ruby. There was no inbetween. He almost always in these conversations which I would have with him, he would probably be listening to me but he would be staring off—at anything.

Mr. Hubert. You mean that’s during the 3 years you knew him?

Mr. Hallmark. Yes; and on this afternoon he was just more so. After he had closed this conversation with the diskjockey or newsman, if you prefer, he walked east on Commerce Street away from his club. In other words, he walked up past—I don’t know at what point he walked, but he walked past his competitors.

Mr. Hubert. That’s the Colony Club?

Mr. Hallmark. Yes; that’s right, and he was gone about 2 minutes and he came back and when he came back he stopped right outside this cashier’s cage and stood there and looked for—it seemed like 2 full minutes. He acted like he wanted to say something, but he never did until he said, “I’ll see you, Claud”, and then he went and got in his car.

Mr. Hubert. Did you form the impression then, on the 23d, that he was acting a bit differently than he usually did or has that impression been formed in retrospect?