Mr. Hubert. And that means that you got to the jail about what time?
Mr. Hodge. About 11:45 or 11:50.
Mr. Hubert. Then, by the time you got the call to go back out again to move your car it was near 12 o’clock?
Mr. Hodge. It was around 12 o’clock. Yes; probably 5 minutes until 12; I would say.
Mr. Hubert. Who was in Captain Fritz’ office when you went in first?
Mr. Hodge. Well——
Mr. Hubert. Was Oswald there?
Mr. Hodge. I didn’t see Oswald. I have never seen him except on TV, but Captain Fritz has one office—I don’t know which office is his, but the one on the left has a glass window in it, and when I went in this hallway, out in the hallway where all the TV cameras was, there was another hallway, and Captain Fritz waved at me—he seen me through this glass and there was several people in there with him, and I went on in a little office not quite as big as this and sat down. There was four or five people there, and the lady on the desk—the phone rang, and she said, “Mr. Hodge, you left a dog down in your car and the detectives wants to move that car and they can’t move it, and would you go down and move it,” and two of the detectives got up and went with me to the elevator and got on the elevator.
Mr. Hubert. They were in plain clothes?
Mr. Hodge. Yes.