Mr. Hubert. Had you sold a gun to Ruby?

Mr. Hodge. No.

Mr. Hubert. You never sold a gun to Ruby?

Mr. Hodge. I think Ray’s Hardware sold that gun, so I’ve been told.

Mr. Hubert. What time was it, when you saw Ruby on the elevator?

Mr. Hodge. It was right within 10 minutes, I’d say 10 minutes till 12 or 12 minutes to 12.

Mr. Hubert. And he got off on the main floor?

Mr. Hodge. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. And you went down one level further?

Mr. Hodge. Yes; we went on to the basement.