Mr. Hubert. There were services on Friday, November 22, the night of the President’s death, and I ask you if you were present at that service?
Mr. Kaufman. No, sir; I was not present.
Mr. Hubert. There were also services on Saturday morning, November 23, and I ask you if you were present at those services?
Mr. Kaufman. No; I wasn’t present then. I was supposed to go to Abilene, Tex., to take a deposition on that Saturday and I recall having to cancel my taking of the deposition because I felt so bad about the assassination, but I do recall that I had a plane reservation to leave Dallas at that time.
Mr. Hubert. All right, will you continue with your comments on Exhibit No. 1?
Mr. Kaufman. All right, getting down to paragraph (3). The statement in regard to trips by Ruby are substantially correct. The comment about a visit to Cuba to visit an acquaintance who works in a casino there—now, I don’t recall that I made any statement that the man worked in a casino. It was my recollection that I felt or thought that the man was supposed to be a gambler, and I think prior to the taking of the deposition, this morning, you and I commented about this when you gave me an opportunity to examine it, and I believe this man’s name was McWillie, if I’m not mistaken, but whether he worked at the casino or not, I don’t know. I didn’t know then and I don’t know now. I wouldn’t make the statement that he worked in the casino.
Mr. Hubert. In any case, the only thing you would know about it would be what Ruby told you?
Mr. Kaufman. What Jack had told me, correct.
Mr. Hubert. Do you remember when that was?
Mr. Kaufman. Mr. Hubert, I wouldn’t even try to guess. I don’t believe Castro was in office at that time. As I recall—of course—it might have been right at the time when the takeover took place. I would rather not even try to venture a guess.