Mr. Kaufman. The records would reflect that and I’m sure there should have been franchise taxes which were filed which would likewise show who the officers and directors were.
Mr. Hubert. All right, sir; would you continue?
Mr. Kaufman. All right, going back here to this third paragraph—I don’t think it’s fair to report, “He states he knows only two persons who might be able to furnish pertinent information.” I think the question that was asked me was who would know the most about Jack and I told them that I thought that Ralph Paul was probably the closest friend that Jack Ruby had and that I thought Ralph Paul would be probably the best informant that they could get, and further, that Alice Nichols, who was secretary for a very fine lawyer who used to be associated with my father-in-law, Bob Dillard. They shared offices in the old Southland Building and Bob is general counsel for Southland Life, and Alice was his secretary, and Jack and Alice had gone together for many, many years and it was my feeling—it’s not a question of the only people, it’s a question of who were best qualified to furnish them some information and I did say that I thought Jack’s acquaintance with Ralph Paul and with Alice would qualify them more than anyone I knew to give them any information. Now, in regards to this next paragraph relating to Jack calling me at home.
Mr. Hubert. That is on the 23d day of November?
Mr. Kaufman. The 23d of November, the day after the assassination of the President. I don’t think this correctly reflects what took place, and I would like to modify it to this extent.
Mr. Hubert. All right; go ahead.
Mr. Kaufman. Jack called me at home and I’m pretty sure that the hour was somewhere between 3:45 and 4 o’clock and as I recall, I gave this information to the agents, and the reason I’m sure about the time——
Mr. Hubert. That’s in the afternoon?
Mr. Kaufman. Yes, sir; and the reason I’m so sure about the time, I was sleeping and I was awakened, and we do have a clock on our nightstand and I recall Jack calling and he was very upset, and the nature of our conversation was in regard to this Bernard Weissman or Wiseman and the ad that he had run in the Dallas Morning News.
Mr. Hubert. What manifestations of his being upset did you observe?