Mr. Kaufman. We never talked about his background. Not that he would avoid it—naturally, there would be a time or occasion that certain events would come up and he might say, “Well, it was pretty rough in Chicago.” Jack had a finger off—I don’t know if you have seen Jack, but he did tell me once that someone bit it off in a fight he had with him. Now, whether that was in Dallas or Chicago, I don’t even know, and whether that was true or not, I don’t know.
I was at the Worth Food Market, they have a kosher delicatessen up there and I was checking out—I’d been up there buying some stuff and I was up at the counter checking out and a little boy had his little portable radio and all of a sudden I heard this kind of a report, as I recall, “They are bringing Oswald down,” and the next thing is this boom, and as I recall the news reporter said, “My goodness, one of these trigger-happy detectives has shot Oswald” and they wouldn’t identify who it was, and then they straightened it up and they said, “No, it wasn’t a detective” but they wouldn’t identify him, but then I get in the car and turn on the radio in the car and all of a sudden they say it was Jack Ruby who was the person who had shot Lee Oswald, and I liked to have died. I was going home, and my wife had heard it, and she couldn’t believe it. She just talked about “what went wrong with that crazy Jack?” She said, “He just must have been nuts,” but it just was the most shocking thing I ever heard in my life when I heard on the radio that Jack Ruby had gone to the police station and shot Lee Oswald.
Mr. Hubert. Did anyone contact you to represent him? I think it was mentioned that he said that you would be one of his three lawyers?
Mr. Kaufman. I think he said he wanted any of these three—yes.
Mr. Hubert. He never contacted you about it?
Mr. Kaufman. He personally?
Mr. Hubert. Yes?
Mr. Kaufman. He didn’t call me, but I had a call right after that from some lady saying she was calling for his sister, and at that time Oswald was still living, and they called me and they said “We know you don’t handle these matters and maybe you could refer someone to us?”
Mr. Hubert. Did she identify herself?
Mr. Kaufman. At the time she did, but I gave no significance to it.