Mr. Hubert. Could you tell us what time it was you first saw Ruby on that day?

Mr. Newnam. It was approximately 12:40.

Mr. Hubert. How do you fix that time, sir?

Mr. Newnam. I fix that time this way: I watched the motorcade at Main and Austin. After the motorcade had passed, naturally, I proceeded to the office to take care of a few matters which had to be taken care of.

Mr. Hubert. Had you been to the office prior to going to see the parade?

Mr. Newnam. I had been there early in the morning; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. At what time did you leave to go to see the parade?

Mr. Newnam. Well, I left on our regular business—I left the office—I imagine around 9:15 or 9:30.

Mr. Hubert. Ruby was not there then?

Mr. Newnam. No, sir.