Mr. Rea. Yes; he saw it or heard the shots.
Mr. Hubert. Was that the first news you got about the President?
Mr. Rea. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Do you remember what time that was?
Mr. Rea. Well, I would say it was a quarter of one, I guess. Then, we went up—then, goodness—first of all—I thought—he’s the type boy that will kid a little bit, you know, he’s sort of an outspoken type individual, you know, and I thought—well, he was kidding, and I guess everybody else did too with the original idea or feeling or reaction to it, but then when I realized that he was serious, then we went upstairs up to the editorial room, thinking that perhaps we could get later information as it comes in, and so we went up there and stayed about 15 minutes or so.
Mr. Hubert. Had you seen Jack Ruby then?
Mr. Rea. I don’t recall seeing him all that time. I don’t know whether he was there or not.
Mr. Hubert. What time do you think you got back from the room?
Mr. Rea. It must have been around 1 o’clock or shortly after 1 o’clock.
Mr. Hubert. Had you then heard anything about the shooting of Officer Tippit or of an officer?