Mr. Hubert. That was about 7 o’clock in the morning.

Mr. Waldo. That was within 7 minutes—say, 7:05.

Mr. Hubert. You said you had an arrangement with the Associated Press man to call you if there was any sign of moving him. May I ask whether that was an individual arrangement that you made or was that made for all newspaper people?

Mr. Waldo. No; at the time we made this—you see, after Chief Curry and Capt. Will Fritz of homicide division had both repeated several times that there would be no further movement or interviewing of the prisoner that day, and they themselves had left the building and all the offices were locked up, only a few of us still thought that there might be something going to take place and remained behind in the pressroom, so that about 1:30 a.m. when the janitors had moved in, and we finally decided for the moment at least, nothing was going to happen, the Associated Press man who was one of us—I’d say there were perhaps six of us at that time in the pressroom, and I’m trying to think of his name—Ray Holcomb [spelling] H-o-l-c-o-m-b.

Mr. Hubert. Of the Associated Press?

Mr. Waldo. Of the Associated Press, who was then going off duty, volunteered to Johnson and myself, because we had expressed reluctance to leave the pressroom and yet were pretty “bushed” by that time, having had no sleep the night before, he said, “We’ll have a man on duty throughout the night and we’ll be checking in here regularly. I can let you know the minute anything happens, if you like,” and that was the arrangement.

Mr. Hubert. Was this made with all the people in the pressroom or just made with you two?

Mr. Waldo. I don’t recall that anybody else requested such an arrangement or had it made with them.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know whether all the other people who left before you did had similar arrangements to be called in the event there was a sudden move?

Mr. Waldo. I do not—I did not specifically hear anybody make such arrangements.