Mr. Hubert. When did you first see him?
Mr. Waldo. I would say 5 or 10 minutes before he came up and gave me a card. I noticed he was passing out cards and saying something to people. There was such bedlam in the corridor of the third floor with the television apparatus that’s in there—unless someone was less than 10 feet from you, you could not hear what was being said.
Mr. Hubert. In any case, you observed Ruby about 10 minutes before you had any further contact with him?
Mr. Waldo. That’s right.
Mr. Hubert. Was there anything that called your attention to him especially?
Mr. Waldo. Only, I might say, a somewhat aggressive manner. I noticed that he was plucking at somebody’s sleeve to turn them around, and a few minutes later, seeing him give that man a card, and then a few minutes—2 or 3 minutes later—seeing him moving closer to where I was, giving out another card—as he gave out the card, giving the man a hearty slap on the arm—although I could not catch the words, I could catch the rather strident tone of his voice, and when he came up to me, although he did not behave in as gratuitously familiar a way in the sense of either clutching at my clothing or patting me, there was still a sort of overdone ingratiating manner as he gave out this card and said, and I’ll have to paraphrase it—I cannot remember the exact words—but it was something to this effect, “You’re one of the boys, aren’t you? Here’s my card with both my clubs on it. Everybody around here knows me. Ask anybody who Jack Ruby is. As soon as you get a chance, I want all of you boys to come over to my place, the one downtown here is more convenient, and have a drink on me. I’ll be seeing you.” That’s approximately it.
Mr. Hubert. About what time was that?
Mr. Waldo. Approximately 4 o’clock, I would say, again basing it on my memory. I did not have a clock, I did not look at a watch or have a clock in vision at that moment.
Mr. Hubert. It could have been as late as 5, you think?
Mr. Waldo. It could have been; yes. Time telescoped itself remarkably that day.