Mr. Hubert. Now you did see Ruby again after the 24th?

Mr. Jenkins. Oh, yes.

Mr. Hubert. I take it that that was in the court?

Mr. Jenkins. In the trial, and in the hearing. Of course pictures in the paper many times.

Mr. Hubert. Is it still your belief then from the other opportunities you had to see Ruby, that the man you saw on the two occasions on the 22d was Jack Ruby?

Mr. Jenkins. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Now in regard to the first occasion, you stated in the document which has been identified as Exhibit No. 1, that you thought you saw him between 5:30 and 7:30 p.m. on the third floor of the Dallas City Jail. Can you tell us why you fix those times?

Mr. Jenkins. Well, at 5:30 I had made a report, a telephone report to the station on what was going on at the police station. I had arrived somewhere around 4 o’clock, and a local colleague was already there. I arrived with Jerry Gunkle, who was ordinarily an announcer, but he was filling in as a newsman because of the situation that afternoon. About 5:30 I made a report and asked what time it was, and was told it was 5:30, and the next time that I can recall realizing what time it was, was 7:30 in the evening, due to interviewing people, talking to police officers, trying to get stories, and trying to feed them either to the station or to my control hopper down there.

Mr. Hubert. What makes you fix this 7:30 hour?

Mr. Jenkins. The same reason. I called the station again and checked what time it was.