Mr. Johnson. At that moment, I did not know. And looked around over my shoulder and saw a man standing there.

Mr. Hubert. Who was that man?

Mr. Johnson. That man was the man whom I recognized later by photographs and personal appearance as Jack Ruby.

Mr. Hubert. You did not recognize him on that occasion as Jack Ruby?

Mr. Johnson. Oh, yes.

Mr. Hubert. You recognized him then from the previous time you had seen him?

Mr. Johnson. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. So that your recognition of him was not based on subsequent pictures you saw of him?

Mr. Johnson. No; I saw him then. I wasn’t real positive. I was not real positive that it was he. The reason for it being that when I had seen him before, he did not wear spectacles. When I saw him then, he did have on hornrim glasses.

Mr. Hubert. Did anybody else in your group seem to know him?