Mr. Standifer. No, sir; I had no enforcement on that end of it.

Mr. Hubert. Well, I wasn’t speaking so much of enforcement, but as to whether or not you knew that only police personnel and news media were supposed to be up there, if that is the case?

Mr. Standifer. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. You didn’t know about it?

Mr. Standifer. No, sir; I know that the hall was so congested with news media and cameras and recording equipment that I had to send three detectives to the basement to work out our official police business from the jail office rather than the routine coming and going of prisoners and people who wished to come into our office to make a complaint. It was impossible for them to get through.

Mr. Hubert. Did you observe any identification system being used by the elevators or other means of entry to the third floor of checking?

Mr. Standifer. All I know is I had occasion to make one or two trips down to the jail office or to the records bureau, and when I would come back off of the elevator, there would be a reserve officer, I believe, and a uniformed officer.

Of course when the door would open from the elevator, they would be standing there, and they would just give me a casual glance. I knew that they recognized me right off, but I was never challenged or anyone around me was never challenged.

Mr. Hubert. But you knew that they were there for a purpose?

Mr. Standifer. Now whether they were keeping unauthorized personnel out, I don’t know. It was never mentioned to me.