Mr. Hall. Yes, sir; Ruby came outside to the table and we sat at the table during the time I interviewed him.
Mr. Hubert. And your interview must have begun, then, about 5 minutes later, you suppose?
Mr. Hall. My interview with Jack Ruby commenced at 12:40 p.m. on November 24, 1963.
Mr. Hubert. Did you know who else was present at the time you first went in?
Mr. Hall. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Who was that?
Mr. Hall. Detective T. D. McMillon [spelling] M-c-M-i-l-l-o-n, of the auto theft bureau was seated in front of the cell where Ruby was sitting at the time I walked in. Just a few minutes later another detective named B. S. Clardy [spelling] C-l-a-r-d-y, from the auto theft bureau of the Dallas Police Department came in. A uniformed officer, K. H. Haake [spelling] H-a-a-k-e, Badge No. 1107, was on guard duty at the outer door of the cell block.
Mr. Hubert. Now, did those three persons you have mentioned remain within the sight and hearing of your interviewing of Jack Ruby throughout the whole time, from the beginning to the end?
Mr. Hall. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Well, maybe we would be better to get the change of personnel first before we get into the statement. Could you clarify that—for instance—if McMillon left and someone else took his place and Clardy left, if you have a notation of that it will be helpful.