Mr. Hubert. What were these conversations about?

Mr. Carlin. To my knowledge, I guess that would be in regard to Friendship Greetings or maybe a check that they owed me or a phone bill that they had agreed to pay that they didn’t ever pay.

Mr. Hubert. Well, you called him on September 27 twice—at 2:45 p.m. and at 5:53 p.m.?

Mr. Carlin. On September the 27th? What day was that in regard to that particular time? Maybe I can recall the reason for calling him.

Mr. Hubert. This was on September the 27th and September the 27th was a Friday. That’s September 27, 1963.

Mr. Carlin. That 27th would have been after I made the trip; right?

Mr. Hubert. After you made what trip?

Mr. Carlin. After the trip to New Orleans or before.

Mr. Hubert. September the 27th would have been almost 2 months before the President was shot?

Mr. Carlin. No; I don’t recall why I would call him.