Mr. Hubert. Did you make any money with it?

Mr. Carlin. Very little with Cameron. He paid my expenses and that’s about the most of it. At times he would give us various sundries that we needed and at times he would give me $5 or $10, but that was nothing to say I made any money. It was a promise deal that I would get a percent of the company for building it and a job.

Mr. Hubert. What about a man named Johnny Ammons [spelling] A-m-m-o-n-s?

Mr. Carlin. Yes; I know him.

Mr. Hubert. Who is he?

Mr. Carlin. He owns a service station. The only reason I would be calling him would be trying to get a motor for a car that I owned at the time that the motor was out.

Mr. Hubert. Do you recall speaking to him?

Mr. Carlin. Yes; but I don’t know exactly when.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have any other association with him?

Mr. Carlin. No; only about 4 or 5 years ago I was at his home once, again, dealing with a car. He buys and sells cars.