Mr. Hubert. But his position was that he didn’t owe any money, so he was lending the money?
Mr. Carlin. Well, he owed it; I believe. Again—I’m not sure, but he said, “I don’t owe that girl a thing.” In other words—“I’ve done enough for her,” and I don’t mean as far as money. He said, “I’ve done her enough favors and I don’t owe her anything.”
Mr. Hubert. You mean he didn’t owe her the obligation of advancing her salary?
Mr. Carlin. Yes; that’s what I mean, and then he said—again, disgusted, but like he didn’t mind, that he just didn’t want to talk. He said, “Let me talk to the guy there and I’ll get him to give you $5 and I can give it back to him.”
Mr. Hubert. And you took it to mean then that that was all he was going to let you have on the advanced salary, is that right?
Mr. Carlin. No; I don’t know whether he said it to me or to her, but he said to call him tomorrow and he would send us some more—I believe was the terms he used, or call him tomorrow he would send us some.
Mr. Hubert. Did he explain why he wanted you to call him tomorrow or why he would be in a position to give you some on Sunday and not on Saturday?
Mr. Carlin. Yes; he said he was busy and didn’t have time to come down there to give it to us then. He said he had company.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, you did ask for more money on Saturday night than the $5?
Mr. Carlin. I asked for no specific amount. Karen may have the first time she talked to him or at that time before I started talking to him, but I asked for no specific amount.