Mr. Hall. Yes, sir; during the entire time.

Mr. Hubert. Did they take part in the interview at all in any active way?

Mr. Hall. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Did they make any suggestions or make any objections?

Mr. Hall. I recall that at the beginning of the interview with Jack Ruby I advised Mr. Ruby that he did not have to make any statements and that he was represented by his attorneys who were present at the time of the interview and that any statements he made during this interview could be used against him in a court of law. At that time Mr. Tonahill objected to that statement, that the statements could be used against him in a court of law, and advised me under the Texas law that Mr. Ruby was under arrest and that oral statements could not be used against him in the court of law and that he would not waive such rights, but he would consent to the interview and that Ruby would answer any questions, and Mr. Belli told Ruby to go ahead and answer any questions, and assured Mr. Ruby that he was present and would look after his interests and would be awake during the entire time of the interview.

Mr. Hubert. Did you conduct this in sort of a question and answer form, or did you more or less tell him to tell it in his own story?

Mr. Hall. It was primarily in a question and answer form. However, in answering a question, sometimes Ruby would continue and answer the question and continue furnishing other information and as long as he talked I just made notes and then asked other questions.

Mr. Hubert. Mr. Clements was present the whole time too?

Mr. Hall. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Did he make notes also?