Mr. Rubenstein. I went back to my own business again, I think.
Mr. Griffin. Let me just ask you if you remember working for some of these companies and then I will ask you some general questions.
Do you remember working for the Fisher Pen Co.?
Mr. Rubenstein. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Was that a——
Mr. Rubenstein. Paul Fisher is a very dear friend of mine, salesman.
Mr. Griffin. Chicago Cardboard Co.?
Mr. Rubenstein. That is the punchboard outfit I told you about, Chicago Cardboard was a punchboard outfit and Paul Fisher, I covered Chicago territory for him.
Mr. Griffin. When you worked for the punchboard company where did you travel?
Mr. Rubenstein. Wisconsin.