This gentleman who drove us there in a station wagon broke an awful lot of traffic rules, and even went against traffic at a couple of points, driving on the wrong side of the street. He took us across a field, I remember, at one point. We made it there very quickly.

Mr. Griffin. Would this be a matter of 2 or 3 minutes, or 5 minutes?

Mr. Kantor. I would guess 2 or 3 minutes, because Parkland Hospital, especially if you take shortcuts like that, is very close.

Mr. Griffin. Now, did this man park and let you out, or did the vehicle just let you out and go on?

Mr. Kantor. We were waved on to the emergency entrance side of Parkland by a policeman, and the driver let us out of the car, I would guess, 25 yards from the entrance.

Mr. Griffin. I wonder if you would do this. I am going to hand you a pad of paper here and a pencil, and ask you if in a rough fashion you can sketch out where you were in relationship to Parkland Hospital, and draw on there a sufficient enough outline to indicate so that we can talk from here on about the diagram and where you went from time to time.

Mr. Kantor. Well, now, you don’t mean where I was in relationship to Parkland Hospital at the time of the shooting?

Mr. Griffin. No; I mean once—we have arrived at the scene now, and the man has let you out about 25 yards from the entrance. Why don’t we start with the diagram that shows that area, and would have enough detail in it to show the other areas you went to at Parkland Hospital.

Mr. Kantor. All right. Well, roughly, at least as a start——

Mr. Griffin. Excuse me. Let me mark this. I will put a notation down here. I am going to mark this yellow sheet of legal size paper “Seth Kantor Deposition, June 2, 1964, Exhibit No. 1.”