Mr. Kantor. I attempted actually to go in before I got on the phone, and the Secret Service man who was stationed there told me I couldn’t go in.

Mr. Griffin. Did you later find out what was in that area?

Mr. Kantor. Not exactly. A few days later I got a description of what the emergency area was like inside. But I don’t know exactly which part of it I was facing at the time I was on the telephone. I was dictating a story in to Jim Lucas of Scripps-Howard, and just describing things as I saw them unfold in the hallway at that point.

Mr. Griffin. About how long did this telephone conversation with Mr. Lucas last?

Mr. Kantor. Well, counting the time that it took me to get Washington, and my story dictated, I would say about 20 to 25 minutes.

Mr. Griffin. When you make a long-distance telephone call to your home office, do you use a credit card, or is there some other indication used by the telephone company for billing purposes?

Mr. Kantor. No; I just called direct.

Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us the telephone number that you called in Washington?

Mr. Kantor. Yes; I called District 7-7750.

Mr. Griffin. Were there other Scripps-Howard representatives at Parkland Hospital at the time you made this call?