Mr. Kantor. Yes; I went down the hall. There were no phones set up for us, of course. We were going into whatever offices we could find with available phones. I went into an office, a large office, which had three nurses in it, and asked if I could use one of their phones. And, again, I had trouble getting out.
After trying over and over, I managed to talk to Mr. Egger again and tell him. And by now he was concerned with the Vice President, what was going to happen there, and should the office send another man down to start following Mr. Johnson.
Mr. Griffin. About how long did this telephone conversation last?
Mr. Kantor. Probably took me 5 minutes to get out, and the conversation was about 5 minutes.
Mr. Griffin. And then did you return to Mr. Kilduff for further announcements?
Mr. Kantor. I returned to the room, and Mr. Kilduff, to the best of my recollection, was not there.
Mr. Griffin. How long after you made your telephone call was it before you walked outside of Parkland Hospital again?
Mr. Kantor. Well, upon later recollection I thought that it was about 10 to 15 minutes, because we went back into the makeshift pressroom and—I really am not sure whether Mr. Kilduff was there or not.
But Bill Stinson, who was—who is an aide to Governor John Connally, came in dressed in a doctor’s uniform—he had just come from the emergency room, and was mistaken for being a doctor. And I remember Kilduff or someone talking to him before Stinson talked to us to tell us about the Governor’s condition. I remember Kilduff saying, “1 o’clock, 1 o’clock, 1 o’clock.” I didn’t know what significance that had. So I guess that Malcolm Kilduff was there when we returned.
Wayne Hawks, of the transportation staff of the White House, interrupted and said that a pool was needed immediately, and about four or five of us, perhaps as many as seven people altogether, followed him and ran down a stairway towards the main entranceway. I didn’t know what a pool was needed for, and I was very reluctant to leave the hospital. But when I got outside in the main entrance area, I saw the Texas congressional delegation——