Mr. Griffin. During this period from 1916 until 1922, when you returned to the family home, what contact did you have with your family?
Mr. Rubenstein. I used to see them, used to go over there, bring them different things, try to talk to the kids, and see that they tried to get along and have what they needed.
Mr. Griffin. How did you happen to go to live at the Deborah Boys Club?
Mr. Rubenstein. I had a fight at home and my father wanted me to go to work and I wanted to go to school because I knew I had to have some education. But with eight children I could see his point but yet I wanted to look out for myself, and I probably was advised by some of my friends that I should leave home, and I did, and through some agency, I don’t remember how, they suggested it would be best for me if I left home and they found this place for me, and so I was admitted.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember if any juvenile court proceedings were instituted?
Mr. Rubenstein. It could have been. It is possible. It is possible there were some juvenile court proceedings, it is a long time ago.
Mr. Griffin. Who instituted those proceedings?
Mr. Rubenstein. I don’t remember. Probably the family service on the west side in Chicago through my mother’s complaints to this association about my father.
Mr. Griffin. Were you having some difficulty with your father at that time?
Mr. Rubenstein. Oh, yes.