Mr. Griffin. I see. So you would have been 16 or 17 when you went to live at the Deborah Boys Club?

Mr. Rubenstein. No; it was right after I graduated from grammar school.

Mr. Griffin. Well, you say 1917.

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes; I was only 15½ when I graduated.

Mr. Griffin. You were born in 1901?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes; close to 1902, though, you see.

Mr. Griffin. You don’t recall any juvenile court proceedings against you in the early part of 1916, in May of 1916.

Mr. Rubenstein. I don’t.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall being under the supervision of a probation officer?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes.