Mr. Hubert. You were aware, of course, of, I think it is called General Order No. 81 and a supplement concerning press releases?

Chief Batchelor. Yes; I am aware of that.

Mr. Hubert. I think that the general tenor of those directives is that they shall cooperate with the press to the extent that such does not interfere with police operations?

Chief Batchelor. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Did you ever consider that the chaotic condition, that I understand existed from what I have learned, constituted interference, or did you think so?

Chief Batchelor. It wasn’t for me to say, Mr. Hubert, whether they should or should not be there. They were kept, as far as possible, out of the bureaus in which the investigation was going on. They were in the hallways.

We have never thought it wise to try to hide from the press the course of investigation except as it might interfere with the further investigation of a crime.

We have at the end of the hallway in the CID, the pressroom. When we remodeled the city hall, we purposely had glass doors put in all the bureaus and in the offices so that there could be no accusations that underhanded things or unlawful force or intimidations were used against these people.

We have always considered that the press was entitled to know the news, and that as long as it didn’t interfere with the course of an investigation, we have allowed them out at the scene of crimes, but have kept them back from places where they might disturb evidence and this sort of thing. But have never tried to exclude them from knowledge of what was going on.

We make offense reports on every crime that is committed, and these offense reports are subject to being looked at by the press. They go over them nearly every morning looking for stories.